Yes, dogs sense energy. :? <span style="font-weight:bold">I think you think I think </span>dogs are totally nothing but blobs or something. If I did I wouldn't be playing virtual pups.
<br><br>lmao reina I got confuzzled until I thought about it XD
reina__ wrote:<br>They couldn't care less if every person on earth hated you. If you pointed a gun to their head they wouldn't cower away, they would lick it. Put antifreeze in their waterbowl and they drink it. Honestly.
<br><br>What I meant was that they would care about you whether everyone hated you or not. Not that they don't sense energies or whatever. I never was trying to debate on the subject, just pointing out facts. :!: We as people are crossing the line. We can buy beef flavored water for our pets, we are worried about our dogs eating raspberries because it is <span style="font-style:italic">poison</span>, and some dogs eat better than millions upon millions of children. (I'm using children in this instance since they are apparently "equal" to dogs thought and mentality.) People aren't so worried about circumcising male infants but will become extremists over the issue of tail docking. People aren't worried about stuffing their faces with trans-fats and sugary foods, but are feeding their dog fresh vegetables and a myriad of supplements. People aren't worried about people having many children compared to how people are worried about a dog having 1 litter. There are millions upon millions of refugees and small children who's parents have died or been macheted apart, but we are spending our donation money on .... nevermind, that is a personal choice. Wake up and smell the scent of reality. There is someone out there who would rather kill <span style="font-style:italic">you</span> than a random animal on the street.
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I will say one thing.<br><br>I was born into this world for animals. I will put an animal's feelings before mine any day. Humans came into this world and put animals into cages, mistreated some, leashed some. Now, they're perfectly fine with it, most domesticated animals. I feel like it is our job now that we've done this to make them as happy as possible. I can suffer pain for an animal.<br><br>That's just me.<br><br>Man! I hate being serious. xD I think that the man did ok. Just sayin'.
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Every animal deserves a chance to find a loving home of their own before their death</span>.
<br><br><span style="font-size:75">Yes, every animal deserves to have a chance at finding a home before they are put down.<br><br>Buuut, you have to admit that they do get that chance in a pound! Pounds are around to help stray/unwanted pets, and they only put down when they actually need to. Like when a dog has been there for too long and no one's taken any interest in him/her. Then they normally put the dog down so he/she doesn't spend the rest of his/her life in a pound. (Plus, the dogs that are unable to be adopted or haven't gotten any interest from anyone take up space for new stray/unwanted dogs to come in).<br><br>No-kill shelters are great, sure. But they always need more donations and a heck of a lot more room than in a regular pound that puts animals down. I give thumbs up for all caring, responsible animal pounds.</span>
<br><br><br>I actually live near a KILL shelter,<br>well, my neighbor had gotten some kittens from there,<br>-and planned to get the rest, the next day-<br>well, she went there the next day and found<br>they had put the remaning litter of kittens to sleep,<br>they had only been there a few days,<br>and if they where still alive they would have a loving home,<br>with there brother and sister at her home.<br><br>So, I would have to disagree.<br>some animals that have only been there a FEW days get put to sleep,<br>which is sad,<br>-considering they could have a home right now-<br>I believe if the animal is suffering or coming to an end in it's life,<br>THEN it should be put to sleep,<br>-only to end it's pain-<br>I do refer people to kill shelters,<br>only because those animals need homes the most.
<br><br><span style="font-size:75">But, I did state that I support caring, responsible shelters. I only think it's neccessary to put an animal down if they have the animal has been there for an extreme length of time.<br><br>Domestic animals are quite overpopulated, and if they kept every one, most pounds might have to shut down-- therefore, we'd have no shelters and more animals might die in the streets.<br><br>That's my perspective. (Yours may be different )</span>
reina__ wrote:<br>They couldn't care less if every person on earth hated you. If you pointed a gun to their head they wouldn't cower away, they would lick it. Put antifreeze in their waterbowl and they drink it. Honestly.
<br><br>What I meant was that they would care about you whether everyone hated you or not. Not that they don't sense energies or whatever. I never was trying to debate on the subject, just pointing out facts. :!: We as people are crossing the line. We can buy beef flavored water for our pets, we are worried about our dogs eating raspberries because it is <span style="font-style:italic">poison</span>, and some dogs eat better than millions upon millions of children. (I'm using children in this instance since they are apparently "equal" to dogs thought and mentality.) People aren't so worried about circumcising male infants but will become extremists over the issue of tail docking. People aren't worried about stuffing their faces with trans-fats and sugary foods, but are feeding their dog fresh vegetables and a myriad of supplements. People aren't worried about people having many children compared to how people are worried about a dog having 1 litter. There are millions upon millions of refugees and small children who's parents have died or been macheted apart, but we are spending our donation money on .... nevermind, that is a personal choice. Wake up and smell the scent of reality. There is someone out there who would rather kill <span style="font-style:italic">you</span> than a random animal on the street.
<br><br>I completley agree,<br>I have no problem with tail docking,<br>ecspecially if it is not harming the animal,<br>I -do- though, believe in keeping pets healthy,<br>I don't mean by overly pampering them,<br>-like you stated-<br>but I do believe that older pets need better taken care of,<br>I pamper my dog,<br>because I know she is coming to an end in her life in a few years.<br><br>And I will admit,<br>I treat my cat as a child,<br>people find it strange,<br>but unless they achive that special bond with an animal,<br>then they can -never- truly understand,<br>and my cat is my first one on one bond with an animal.<br>Although, I have grew up with many animals,<br>he is the first that has actually bonded to me alone.<br>I have been away from him already for almost a month,<br>and I feel like a part of me is missing,<br>-and I won't be able to see him until July. :?-<br><br>So, I can see others point of view in pampering them.
<span style="font-weight:bold">Every animal deserves a chance to find a loving home of their own before their death</span>.
<br><br><span style="font-size:75">Yes, every animal deserves to have a chance at finding a home before they are put down.<br><br>Buuut, you have to admit that they do get that chance in a pound! Pounds are around to help stray/unwanted pets, and they only put down when they actually need to. Like when a dog has been there for too long and no one's taken any interest in him/her. Then they normally put the dog down so he/she doesn't spend the rest of his/her life in a pound. (Plus, the dogs that are unable to be adopted or haven't gotten any interest from anyone take up space for new stray/unwanted dogs to come in).<br><br>No-kill shelters are great, sure. But they always need more donations and a heck of a lot more room than in a regular pound that puts animals down. I give thumbs up for all caring, responsible animal pounds.</span>
<br><br><br>I actually live near a KILL shelter,<br>well, my neighbor had gotten some kittens from there,<br>-and planned to get the rest, the next day-<br>well, she went there the next day and found<br>they had put the remaning litter of kittens to sleep,<br>they had only been there a few days,<br>and if they where still alive they would have a loving home,<br>with there brother and sister at her home.<br><br>So, I would have to disagree.<br>some animals that have only been there a FEW days get put to sleep,<br>which is sad,<br>-considering they could have a home right now-<br>I believe if the animal is suffering or coming to an end in it's life,<br>THEN it should be put to sleep,<br>-only to end it's pain-<br>I do refer people to kill shelters,<br>only because those animals need homes the most.
<br><br><span style="font-size:75">But, I did state that I support caring, responsible shelters. I only think it's neccessary to put an animal down if they have the animal has been there for an extreme length of time.<br><br>Domestic animals are quite overpopulated, and if they kept every one, most pounds might have to shut down-- therefore, we'd have no shelters and more animals might die in the streets.<br><br>That's my perspective. (Yours may be different )</span>
<br><br>I agree with the whole making room and such,<br>because there are others that will get adopted a lot faster,<br>thats why I can't wait to move into a house,<br>-hopefully in January-<br>so me and my boyfriend can adopt every animal. XD
Wake up and smell the scent of reality. There is someone out there who would rather kill <span style="font-style:italic">you</span> than a random animal on the street.
<br><br>You are so right. I'm hopping on the first plane to Mel Gibson's house to figure out an escape route. I'll save you a seat.
Wake up and smell the scent of reality. There is someone out there who would rather kill <span style="font-style:italic">you</span> than a random animal on the street.
<br><br>You are so right. I'm hopping on the first plane to Mel Gibson's house to figure out an escape route. I'll save you a seat.
<br><br>oooh. care to take a flight connecting to Birmingham or London? Would love to say 'YOU CAN TAKE OUR LIVES, BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!' to that bloke. XD I could take Frankie Boyle from Mock the Week! lmao.
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well i would but i don't want you upsetting him before he gets my plan worked out. i mean, i guess i could take you-you'd just have to wait around the corner until i'm done. i'm hoping i get to dig holes in his yard first.
well i would but i don't want you upsetting him before he gets my plan worked out. i mean, i guess i could take you-you'd just have to wait around the corner until i'm done. i'm hoping i get to dig holes in his yard first.
<br><br>sounds good ^^ Frankie Boyle and I can recite the Doctor Who 'scenes we'd like to see' sketch while you finish XD
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oh hooray, we've found the way back to the topic at hand. I swear, every time we wander off in a drastically different direction than what the thread is intended for. haha
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First off.<br><br>I <span style="font-style:italic">do</span> consider myself an animal activist. I have been vegetarian for over 8 years, and vegan for nearly 3 now. <br>There are a lot of things I don't agree with, such as the methods that are used in the slaughter of animals raised for consumption, etc, however it must also be said, that I do not condemn omnivorous people in any way, as it is written into human DNA to consume meat. It is why people have canine teeth, as well as flat grinding teeth, it is why blood needs iron to be healthy. It must also be said that not all animal activists are activism extremists. I would never consider breaking into somewhere, threatening another person, or anything of the sort, and the majority of animal activists are not like that either. Unfortunately the select few who are like that tend to shape peoples' perspectives on animal activists.<br><br>I am a partial supporter of PeTA<br><br>Yes, every story has two sides, and you most certainly cannot believe everything you hear or see, because anything can be misquoted, photoshopped, or video edited. On the milder side of PeTA, they are to be congratulated. This organisation will send information, gifts, and recipes to those wishing to convert to vegetarianism. They are often recognizing people as helpful or heroes to animals for much less than kidnapping test subjects, bombing places, or taking an undercover video diary. It is absolutely ridiculous I will admit, the fact that they take paint, and in some occasions, real blood, and throw it on companies that advocate animal mistreatment or slaughter, but again, that is a small handful of individuals who take part in such actions.<br><br>I am NOT a supporter in any way of ALF<br><br>For more than just the fact that if you are on three or more mailing lists you are considered a terrorist. ALF is violent, and takes things to levels that should not be reached at all. They do not stop to think that in the firebombing of laboratories, places of residence, etc, that the animals they are so passionately advocating for will undoubtedly be harmed in the process, as well as the Human populous of the place they are destroying. <br><br>Greenpeace is another known terrorist organization<br><br>I do however support it to a degree. I occasionally take part in protests when such things are deemed quite important in my eyes. <br><br>The definition of animal cruelty is rather vague and overblown nowadays. People take the issue seriously, which is to be congratulated, but in the event that one finds themselves considering theft, kidnap, murder, or other acts of (criminal)violence, rationality needs to be reassessed. <br><br>As for the dairy discussion also going on in this thread,<br>my opinion tends to vary. As long as the dairy farm in question is not overbreeding, overmilking, or keeping the byproducts of the dairy industry as vealcalves, I have no qualms. Veal is however something I strongly detest. It never was made so clear to me the amount of cruelty involved until I had the misfortune, or in some ways, fortune of finding a nearly-dead veal calf abandoned near the side of a road and left for dead, and of course taking the dear thing home to raise. This was around six or seven years ago, and while I was quite young, the overwhelming sense of hatred that filled me was a frightening thing to me.
<br><br>Same here. I'm a vegan too..<br><br>The one thing I don't like at all is when people <span style="font-style:italic">overtreat</span> their animals.<br><br>Like royalty. I don't mind, for example, letting your dog on the couch and your bed and stuff.<br><br>Because that's caring.<br><br>But I hate when people give dogs 'peoplefood' and clothes and all that stuffs..<br><br>I am an animal activist, but not overly crazy. A lot of things -are- animal abuse, but not everything. It doesn't hurt to care. <br><br>[/hijack]
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Umm.. I have a question.. but.. what are PETA and ALF? :oops: <br><br>Hehe.. from what I've read on this post so far it seems PETA and ALF are no-no's. o_o;<br>But I truly have no clue who they are. xD
ALF = Animal Liberation Front<br>PETA = People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals <br><br>They sound all fine and dandy but are pretty extreme, and sort of hypocrites. Like us all I guess.
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1) There is a difference between expressing an opinion related to the topic of the site in question and religion, which is not relevant to VirtualPups. There are religious forums out there, though, so you're in luck! <br><br>2) Internet trolling (Wikipedia)<br>"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion." <br><br>We've seen this kind of thread before, is this really necessary? It's only going to redraw old battle lines and make everyone upset.
First off.<br><br>I <span style="font-style:italic">do</span> consider myself an animal activist. I have been vegetarian for over 8 years, and vegan for nearly 3 now. <br>There are a lot of things I don't agree with, such as the methods that are used in the slaughter of animals raised for consumption, etc, however it must also be said, that I do not condemn omnivorous people in any way, as it is written into human DNA to consume meat. It is why people have canine teeth, as well as flat grinding teeth, it is why blood needs iron to be healthy. It must also be said that not all animal activists are activism extremists. I would never consider breaking into somewhere, threatening another person, or anything of the sort, and the majority of animal activists are not like that either. Unfortunately the select few who are like that tend to shape peoples' perspectives on animal activists.<br><br>I am a partial supporter of PeTA<br><br>Yes, every story has two sides, and you most certainly cannot believe everything you hear or see, because anything can be misquoted, photoshopped, or video edited. On the milder side of PeTA, they are to be congratulated. This organisation will send information, gifts, and recipes to those wishing to convert to vegetarianism. They are often recognizing people as helpful or heroes to animals for much less than kidnapping test subjects, bombing places, or taking an undercover video diary. It is absolutely ridiculous I will admit, the fact that they take paint, and in some occasions, real blood, and throw it on companies that advocate animal mistreatment or slaughter, but again, that is a small handful of individuals who take part in such actions.<br><br>I am NOT a supporter in any way of ALF<br><br>For more than just the fact that if you are on three or more mailing lists you are considered a terrorist. ALF is violent, and takes things to levels that should not be reached at all. They do not stop to think that in the firebombing of laboratories, places of residence, etc, that the animals they are so passionately advocating for will undoubtedly be harmed in the process, as well as the Human populous of the place they are destroying. <br><br>Greenpeace is another known terrorist organization<br><br>I do however support it to a degree. I occasionally take part in protests when such things are deemed quite important in my eyes. <br><br>The definition of animal cruelty is rather vague and overblown nowadays. People take the issue seriously, which is to be congratulated, but in the event that one finds themselves considering theft, kidnap, murder, or other acts of (criminal)violence, rationality needs to be reassessed. <br><br>As for the dairy discussion also going on in this thread,<br>my opinion tends to vary. As long as the dairy farm in question is not overbreeding, overmilking, or keeping the byproducts of the dairy industry as vealcalves, I have no qualms. Veal is however something I strongly detest. It never was made so clear to me the amount of cruelty involved until I had the misfortune, or in some ways, fortune of finding a nearly-dead veal calf abandoned near the side of a road and left for dead, and of course taking the dear thing home to raise. This was around six or seven years ago, and while I was quite young, the overwhelming sense of hatred that filled me was a frightening thing to me.
<br><br>Same here. I'm a vegan too..<br><br>The one thing I don't like at all is when people <span style="font-style:italic">overtreat</span> their animals.<br><br>Like royalty. I don't mind, for example, letting your dog on the couch and your bed and stuff.<br><br>Because that's caring.<br><br>But I hate when people give dogs 'peoplefood' and clothes and all that stuffs..<br><br>I am an animal activist, but not overly crazy. A lot of things -are- animal abuse, but not everything. It doesn't hurt to care. <br><br>[/hijack]
<br><br>I agree. I love animals but treating them like royalty is just... :roll: <br><br>What I don't like is when people act like animals are more important than people. Yes they have feelings, yes they should not be abused, but they're <span style="font-weight:bold">animals.</span><br><br>I see dogs as smart, beautiful creatures. That whole thing about people saying animals shouldn't be property...<br>Dogs and other domestic animals need humans, we need dogs. Think of everything dogs have done for us. Helped blind and deaf people, saved lives, encourage sick people (therapy dogs) and for those reasons I agree that dogs should be treated as nicely as possible-but without going overboard an making their lives even better then humans.<br><br>Someday I hope to run my own dog shelter, and it will <span style="font-style:italic">definatly</span> be no kill. I understand putting dogs down that have been in shelters for a long time, if it seems like no one will ever adopt them, or if they are in pain, because I'd rather see a dog's suffering end then have it live the rest of it's life in a kennel cage with other dogs barking around it and be miserable.
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