Would like some input

Alabama · June 2011

It seems players are being scammed by entering trainoffs and then the host(s) disappearing before prizes can be delivered. Of course, if they disappear, there really isn't much we, as Ops, can do unless the host(s) have enough money left on their accounts to pay the prizes they offered. If they offered goodie dyes or upgrades, there's nothing we can do except ban the player. In the end, it is frustrating for us to see players cheated and not be able to do anything about it and I'm sure incredibly more frustrating for the players who participated and didn't get any kind of recompense for the time and effort they put into the trainoff. Ops have discussed different ways to try and stop this, but we've been unable to come up with anything that really sounds feasible to us. So I thought to bring it up to you to see if there's anything you think could be done to keep players from being cheated.

Kazuko · June 2011

MMs for trainoffs? A host would offer a certain amount of VPC which would be sent to a MM kennel until the end of the train off. For prizes like dyes/upgrades, maybe create VP Certificates where the host would send the money for whatever prize is offered ahead of time and a certificate of purchase would be sent to the MM. When the train off is over, the MM distributes VPC/Certificates/Dogs/Etc to the appropriate winners?

HuntersGATHERING · June 2011

I like that idea. To send the money to the MM before the trainoff starts. And if they don't have the all the money for it they can just wait or not have it. For the certificates will it be worth the dollar total. Because if a player was giving a unmade dye/sponsor how can they send that to the MM if they were not created yet. Like a dye cost $9 usd and a 6 month sponsor $16 usd would the certificate be the money's worth. Or maybe they can send one of the Ops that dollar amount through paypal. Sorry its sounds confusing I don't know how to explain it.

Kazuko · June 2011

A dye certificate is the same price as a dye, $9, only instead of having to use the dye immediately upon purchase, a certificate can be held by a MM until the end of the trainoff and then the winner of that dye would select what tey want.

PaperWings · June 2011

Not worth sending money via paypal to a MM and then onto the game, because paypal takes a fee each time. And not everyone has paypal. Certificate seems cool, but need to make it so the original buyer doesn't have access. Because knowing some people they'll just spend it on themselves at the end of the day lol. And would be hard to have MM for train-offs since some people offer trainings and we can't "hold" trainings for people.

Trianna · June 2011

Perhaps to make sure trainings are done the person doing the trainoff could give an mm something as collateral that would be returned when the trainings were completed? Although I have no idea why someone would offer trainings as a trainoff prize, when everyone who enters has to already have access to a training kennel...

PaperWings · June 2011

They might have a strong dislike for long groom/rh, but happy to do a million skill+stat max trainings. People are weird, so you'd be surprised XD

Alabama · June 2011

I'm kinda liking the certificate idea, though it would need to be coded into the game to work for us to MM. Might be something for the future, but won't help us until the new coding is done and deglitched and admin1 has time to look at adding new things. Anything in the short term?

PaperWings · June 2011

Tokens! =p

HWRD2 · June 2011

I like that this is being brought up. Because I LOVE train-offs both holding them and participating in them but I have also had the issue of being on the wrong end of one and getting nothing for a HUGE amount of dogs i trained. Love the certificate idea. Idk what to do in the short term besides holding the vp stuff because nothing you can really do to hold the rl stuffs.

Kazuko · June 2011

The only temporary fix would be to have an op MM VP stuff (VPC, dogs offered, etc) and disallow dyes, upgrades, etc until certificates are added.

HWRD2 · June 2011

Mhm which would kinda suck because upgrades and dyes are the best prizes and get the most entries when offering those things. But if it would be a short term thing then it might be best to do what Kaz said to avoid people being scammed and such in TO's.

3Eagles · June 2011

I love the token and certificate ideas. I've wished we had tokens before.

Lkmnpo100 · June 2011

maybe we could only be allowed to use stuff that can be held by the MM's. then no-one can be injured if you get what i mean

FlyTM · June 2011

I like the token idea... as the only way to really get people in the mood to want to do the TO is to throw up there upgrades and dyes xD. I know I would want that over dogs and cash anyday.

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